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Sunday, February 14, 2010

Required for 2/22 before class--1 of 2 options. Where are the men who pressure other men NOT to rape? Sign full name.

http://www.feministing.com/archives/019351.html

A "what about the menz?!" I can get behind Read this link and comment. Do you agree with the blogger? Why or why not?

15 comments:

  1. I agree there are many articles, books, news reports, and movies that teach women about sexual assault and different ways to prevent it from happening to them. They are also told what to do if it ever happens to them. But I also think that these measures should be taken to teach men not to rape women in the first place. I think that all men should be required to read books and watch movies etc. at different points while in school or when applying for jobs. This would make it clear to men that rape is a serious matter, and it will show them not to cross certain lines when they are with a woman. Knowing this, if they choose to sexually assault women they will very well know the consequences they will be facing and can't expect anyone to give them a break.
    -Susana Campos

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  2. Woman need to be more aware because there is some guy of there that does not give a care what he does or how he does something. The thing is that MEN get sexually assaulted as well. This site is incorrect in using the word RAPE due to the fact that back in the day RAPE meant a woman could only get raped, and then if she was married there was no possible way that her husband could rape her. The laws have changed and are now more suitable to both genders. BOTH men and woman need training on how not to get into situations and what to do in they are encountered. Granted it is more of a norm that women get attacked over men however it does not mean that it does not happen. The parents should be raising their children the right way and most of these instances would not be happening. It is quite frankly ridiculous that we have to tell society how NOT to sexually assault a person. However; it is must be done then so be it.

    -Kara Burroughs

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  3. I strongly agree with this article. There is a huge double standard, as stated in class on Monday, between the victim and the perpetrator. I also agree with Susana that there should be special educational information directed towards males in order to stop them from having the idea of raping someone. Women are not necessarily to blame for being assualted due to their clothing, actions, or their state of mind at that time. There are a couple of times when I'd be out with my roommate and she wouldn't be herself because she is scared how she would be portrayed to the "creeps" at the bar. If she dances normally, she might seem like a slut and be a target for assualt. If males were better educated in this issue, maybe females would not have to have their guard up in certain situations.

    -Keri Plica

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  4. After reading this article, I have come to the conclusion that I agree with some of the points made and disagree with others. First of all, I thought it was really intersting that it is a federally mandated law that schools act on sexual assault allegations. However, many school's approaches are sub-par. In my opinion, this is awful because those are very delicate situations that need to be handled with care. In many cases, though, it sounds like schools leave women feeling like victims for a second time. Maybe it would be helpful if the regulations were more tightly monitored to ensure that this thing didn't continue to happen. Another point I found interesting was that one girl stated that girls should be careful of binge drinking. I think that this is the completely wrong approach to take on this issue. Binge drinking doesn't cause a woman to get raped. Rather, it is the fact that the other person is a rapist. Overall, I thought that the stats dealing with rape on college campuses were astounding and that something needs to be done to help reverse the current trends.

    -Chad Altfillisch

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  5. As a young male college student I am extremely disappointed to see the statistics on rape or sexual assault. In my opinion there needs to be a stronger sense of whats right and whats wrong within the campus community. Growing up I learned whats right and whats wrong and just because I went to college that doesn't change anything. I would personally love to see a group or organization started up that seeks to teach men proper ways to treat women or just people in general.

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  6. The Comment from Everday Average Joe was posted by Joe Womack

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  7. In all honestly guys I don't really think that guys sit around talking about rape. I mean it would be great if guys made sure that other people didn't rape but the world isn't perfect and things don't always go the way we want, but in not so perfect world things like rape happen. There are people out there who are just down right creeps and no matter what happens somethings will never change.

    Kelsey Michelini

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  8. Yeah. I agree with the above post. Yea, guys don't sit around talking about that at all. This happening in colleges or wherever it might occur isnt right at all. Men nowadays, it would be nice for there to be a class or organizational group that teaches those men that don't know how to treat women, to treat women right.

    Chance Hill

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  9. college is a time that people drink and party, and make bad decisions. the main thing is that people make sure that these decisions dont effect others. As for guys sitting around and talking about rape, we do sometimes. most of the time in the sense of someone that has been affected by them,not like as in sitting around saying, oh yah rape is how it goes, la da da de. as for the nature of education in terms of men and sexual assault its abysmal. in sex ed its hardly even mentioned at all.

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  10. I agreed with part of the article. The campus could do more in supporting victims of rape. A person trying to overcome such a thing it going to be a very difficult process taking time and someone with a professional background. This should be provided by the school. The thing is although the school could try to do more after the rape what could they do before? Rape can happen any time any where it would be very hard to control. The only real thing that could help is Women being more intelligent in their decision making and always be surrounded by those you can trust. Kayla O'Neill

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  11. There's definitely a stronger position to help victims and potential victims than there is to prevent them from becoming victims in the first place. Most of the guys I've known had very little, if any, idea that sexual assault could mean anything except outright rape. A few might have figured groping a woman might qualify, but would then say that if they woman let them do it without complaining then, it must have been okay. There's a general ignorance as to what is, and is not, sexual assault. Some men believe anything is okay as long as she doesn't expressly say no. While others are so paranoid about making a mistake they avoid any contact with women, out of fear they might do something innocent that was misinterpreted. (Though if it CAN be misinterpreted as sexual assault, chances are there's no 'mis' involved.) I would myself, being the parent of a soon-to-be female college student, really get behind and support some level of education to ALL students about what can be considered sexual assault. For the possible perpetrators, they'll know what is and isn't wrong. For the possible victims, they'll know that what happened to them definitely IS sexual assault and needs to be dealt with. After all, some sexual assaults go unreported, because the victim doesn't realize that while it felt wrong, it was actually violating some sort of enforceable rule.

    Benjamin Barnes

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  12. I agree that most men are not informed on what is considered 'rape' and think that their actions would not be qualified. Of course, I think that men should encourage other men not to engage in rape, but I think that some men feel they don't need to. They can't see their friends committing, what they would call 'rape'. I also think that men consider rape a violent act, like it is shown and depicted in most movies. I think this is part of the reason for men discouraging their friends, or other men, not to rape.

    -Laura Curtin

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  13. I agree with what the article says. There need to be more men stepping up and taking action. I think it's wrong for people to make up excuses for rapists, such as the girl was too drunk, or he was raped as a child so he doesn't know how to go about it and so on. There is no excuse as to why a man should rape a female, he is a rapist, simple as that. I think men should learn to talk to their friends more and try to let them know that raping girls is not cool at all and it can scar a female physically and emotionally. I just feel that men should learn to be more considerate of the girls feelings.
    -Toykia Meeks

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  14. I agree with all of the women on here responding but in my opinion, men should not be penalized for other people's action. So women seduce men to lure them into many traps and try to become victims towards other men who may not have a single violent move in their system. I think that the acrticle states it's points across to the men about rape and stop and think issue. But on the other hand some women need to learn when no means no and some men needs to learn that, too. Some men can easily be scarred for life, too but some women don't see that our way though.

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